ArtPremium is in conversation with French-Macedonian visual and multimedia artist & film director founder of the Planetarism movement, who represented France at the French Festival in Taipei
KIRO URDIN: Please don’t ask me questions because there is no answer to a question. People do not know how to recognize the truth. As everyone lies, I lie more than others! I forgot about all my friends and I cherished all my enemies because they are the only ones who stimulate me in my life and who strengthen my immunity which allows me to defend myself against my weaknesses.
YOU HAD A PERIOD DEDICATED TO FILMING AND COLLABORATING IN MULTIMEDIA PROJECTS
The whole life is cinema. To survive it, you must always be into it. Thus, I constantly make cinema.
HOW IMPORTANT TO YUR CAREER WAS THIS PERIOD OF YOUR LIFE ?
No, there is no period. There are moments. Everything else doesn’t exist and we can erase it. The only thing that exists is the moment where significant things happen in an apotheosis of thoughts or emotions. The rest is a rain of lies and mediocrity.
YOU BEGAN WITH A SUBTILE AND DELICATE EXPRESSION, AND THEN YOU YOU BORROWED A MORE POWERFUL EXPESSION.
Yes, it was an expression of love towards myself. Thus, I have worked naturally without end and I think that everything I did is with no importance. It leaves me a lot of space and time to try to achieve something.
YOU STARTED WITH THE QUICKEST TECHNIQUE.
Yes, I started with the quickest technique.
EMOTION IS YOUR VECTOR OF CREATION, AND YOU ARE SOMEONE WITH A LOT OF STRENGTH AND RESISTANCE.
No, others say that. I find myself flat
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WHY IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MATTER?
No, it’s because I’m incapable of doing a good work in my lifetime. One must want to do something, and then must be able to do it. Finally, it’s the people’s energy that makes the difference. Great artists are like unknown heroes who have given their lives for their countries and had no time to understand their deeds. When we express ourselves taking into consideration what is fashionable for an easy and fast success, thus we fool the people and us. The truth lies elsewhere. It is profoundly hidden in the emotions and in the unconsciousness of the artist; however, when he becomes aware of it, he is no longer an artist. The definition of what is good is not art. On the other hand, what is true is art.
WHAT CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND TRHAT WE HAVE PERCEIVED THE MESSAGE OF THE ARTWORK?
The artwork can be unsuccessful, but it is enough that in an area of the canvas, the artist has expressed something immortal. It is stronger than a work extraordinarily done because it is inexplicable. We always want to explain what we cannot explain. I consider that the greatest artist, writer or historian is the primitive man, who alone has found the colors and realized in his caves of remarkable works that chemically have resisted in surviving through the centuries. Currently, art is fast food. We no longer respect Byzantine or Renaissance paintings. The artists of this period were in love with Art. They did a lot of research before they dared to begin painting. Today, we do one brushstroke, we highly praise the artist, we make one gesture and we call it minimalist art. Then why don’t we sell their works for a minimal price? We do not do enough research on the color, the canvas or the supports that we use. When we speak of art or when we make art, it should be an immortal act, for the next millennium. The works must survive with time. Art must not be temporary but must serve future generations.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK OF NEW SUPPORTS SUCH AS VIDEO OR DIGITAL ART?
I have nothing against these new supports and new technologies. On the other hand, I do not agree when we don’t try to go beyond ourselves. Art is a marriage between man and his spirit. The technique or the technology comes in second place. We fall into the ease of the system to produce more and to try to earn more. Of course, we can be successful, to have more promotion, but we must suffer and question ourselves every day to be a great artist. We must have uncertainty and to look beyond the unfortunate. Wealth and happiness are an obstacle for the energy of creation. We can visit a technically perfect exhibit, read a book, listen to music, see a theatrical work, then leaving 5 minutes later, we will have forgotten everything because the works were empty of energy.
DO YOU THINK THAT MONEY AND MEDIA ARE IMPORTANT FACTORS TO ARTIST’S RECOGNITION?
No, time is the true judge. It is with time that we will discover the true artists. It is not those who are stars.
HOW CAN WE PERCEIVE THE SUFFERING OF THE ARTIST? iS IT IN THE COLOR, THE MATERIAL, THE SHAPE OR THE SUBJECT?
By the composition, the colors and all the attributes that constitute the atmosphere of the artwork. Of course, great artists produce major artworks as well as works without any importance, except for great artists from the Renaissance such as Leonardo da Vinci, Raphael, Miguel Angelo and others who had an absolute need for giving and for creating, sublime and spiritual searches. They did not sign their works as long as the perfection of their expression and execution didnâ??t allow them to perceive the energy and the magic of time to take its place, as long as they did not feel the end of their spiritual powers, to go beyond themselves because the artist is always weak. A great spirit wants always to go beyond himself. Doubt is necessary for growth. What fascinates me is the number of times Miguel Angelo destroyed his frescoes because he wasn’t satisfied. These days, with a squirt of paint on a canvas we say “It’s amazing”. We compose music, we say “It’s amazing” , we write a book and we say again “It’s amazing”. We live on a planet that is a paradise for geniuses. In our world there are no longer any normal people there are only geniuses.
Everything is art under the condition to preserve the unconsciousness regarding the possibilities for creativity. When one becomes an artist, he becomes pervert. An artist is like a child who knows neither to talk nor to walk, who makes mechanical gestures. We are deformed by what we have learned. We should maintain our innocence.
WHAT WOULD DEFINE THE ERROR?
It is random, the color, the paintbrush, the unexpected mixture.
CURRENTLY YOUR WORK IS GREATLY INSPIRED BY THE INVISIBLE COSMIC SUBSTANCE, BY THIS EXISTING WORLD AND INEXISTANT TO OUR EYES.
I cannot define what I do in painting or in cinema. I do not live in the illusion that someone understands me. But what must we understand? We feel, and we express our emotions. I simply live and express myself because a world bothers me days and nights and creates a constant confusion in my mind. I can neither explain nor understand my world, neither explain myself nor understand myself. That is what makes life worthwhile, the suspense of life. We can’t define ourselves, but constantly challenge ourselves.
IN CONCLUSION, TO A QUESTION, THERE IS NO ANSWER THERE ARE ONLY QUESTIONS!
There is no questions and no responses.